Saturday, May 22, 2010

Surely sectarian songs are part of our heritage..like flower of scotland... no chips just wanna get answers?

expected some adult answers.the singing will and should continue...discuss

Surely sectarian songs are part of our heritage..like flower of scotland... no chips just wanna get answers?
it is part of our heritage whether people like it or not .it seems OK to have a national anthem that talks about rising up to be a nation again against England but not okay to sing songs about the U.V.F. or I.R.A. would they be trying to ban it if it was" the turban my father wore "i think not !people should be able to be proud of their roots ! too many other Scottish football fans are jumping on jacks bandwagon the man who would not commit to being a Celtic man on the tam cowan show what a turd he is!!then proclaims he will not support England and all of a sudden wee boys in England tops in Scotland are getting a kicking !!! votes !!! that's what it is about somehow i think he should have came up with a more diplomatic answer maybe Bridget !!!told him to say that or even Jackie on the telly !!what a false bastard that man is !! and the funny thing is Scotland will vote him back in


i wonder if the Muslims had a football team would they stop them singing??
Reply:move to scotland - join the 17 th century.
Reply:but the best about it is the guys all probably work together on the Monday morning!!
Reply:Barbaric
Reply:It shouldnt continue, but it probably will which is really sad in my opinion. There is enough hatred in this world ithout adding to it by a stupid game of football!
Reply:Adult answers to child-like writing and a juvenile stance?


Decent people want this sort of thing stopped legally.


It WILL happen.


No go away and sing in your cupboard.


Oaf.
Reply:Its about time the Rangers and Celtic fans grew up and stoped singing these racist song about beinh knee deep in finion blood etc.


It brings a bad name to your club, your country and yourself. BUt i will go on as the young boys at matches will pick up the words and astart singing them as well.
Reply:I believe there is a time and a place for everything. While watching Celtic singing "We shall not be moved", "Celtic Song", "Willie Malay (without the add-ons), "You'll Never Walk Alone", etc. is great. I'd be happy to leave the rebel singing for nights with a few pals, not at the match. One of my pals calls them "close the windae" songs :))))





I'm not going to deny the fact that my family is Irish and Catholic, I can't change what I am but stopping sectarian singing at all matches, to me, is reasonable.
Reply:It should be banned.
Reply:yawn
Reply:Apart from the MINORITY, all this sectarian singing is just part of the 90 mins of a football game. You'll find the people singing these songs have best friends of the other persuasion.


When it goes into the streets and people are attacked and killed for wearing a football strip then.......................... Well, that's another matter. I don't want to start on it.....
Reply:I'm not Scottish so can't comment on the heritage part, but elsewhere on this platform we have people asserting their right to freedom of speech. If singing is banned we're rapidly moving towards a police state.
Reply:these songs have bog all to do with our heritage! people who sing the songs are morons and should realise that its 2006 and has no place in a football stadium! if you believe that these songs should still be allowed to be sung in the same place as young kids who will learn them and start to sing them then sectarianism will never stop! football is the most amazing game and we have the best derby in the world lets show the everyone that we are above this now and let the footie do the talking!
Reply:The songs preach hatred, a purely terrible part of humanity and one we should never wish to retain.


There are many other parts of our heritage we can live without, the Irish famine while the english got fat. The black and Tans. Years of murder and intimidation. A dark cloud hanging over ireland for the best aprt of a century.





Still, God save the queen is sectarian-ish





But it's ok if its the Welsh
Reply:Makes you wonder what % of those singing actually understand what they're singing ABOUT.


Given the average I.Q. of the old firm fans I'm guessing pretty low!!!!


I don't think however,that ANY song should be banned - if fans give in to this then whats next???


Only fifa approved songs in football stadiums??


I might not agree with whats being sung (on both sides) - But I defend the right to sing them.


Who can say that they've ever come away from a football ground feeling OFFENDED by a football song.


The amount of non-sectarian abuse sung at matches directed towards opposing fans and players seems to be OK in the eyes of UEFA but not religious songs - crazy!!!
Reply:Its the hatred that goes with it that I have a problem with.





This incites voilence which is never a good thing.





If people can realise that singing songs and having a laugh is just part of it then OK but its the people who tak itt really seriously and beat people up over it that I have a problem with.
Reply:its about time we come into the 21 century even if it means leaving the past in the past .... the man said he would shut the doors if we sing the billy boys..dont want that to happen ..


its gona be hard but it has to be done ...


an remember that the blue bells are blue


an the futures bright the futures ....lol....


how come a phone company can say it but we cant.....lol
Reply:Thats like saying racism is part of our heritage, why cant we chant racist songs? Any song which offends a section of people will be banned, even the referees can walk off the field if they get boo'ed!
Reply:If you go on the Scotsman site you will find an article that absolutely rubbishes the notion that it is part of our " culture." It may well be part of the culture of those who sing sectarian songs but it certainly is not part of the culture of decent people and only brings shame to the people of Scotland. I agree with the article when it says the Glasgow Police should do the simple thing when they sing these songs " Lift them!"
Reply:Mibbe it is part of your heritage but when it affects the image of decent Scots and decent football fans your outnumbered. Both sides of the Old Firm will make excuses to preserve the bigotry u spout as heritage because you are manipulated by the "ugly Sisters" who realise the financial gain in the politics of hatred.





Personally, I dont think what happens in the grounds is as bad as the day to day bigotry people in Ayrshire and Lanarkshire have to listen too from people who have never set foot inside castle greyskull or the potatodrome. It permeates our ugly society and spoils our beautiful country!


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